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Old 04-10-2012, 04:37 AM   #361
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A WOMEN has told how she watched Sir Jimmy Savile and Gary Glitter abuse underage girls in the DJ’s BBC dressing room.

Tormented Karin Ward claims she saw paedophile Glitter having sex with a 13-year-old while Sir Jimmy abused another girl.

She said the Top Of The Pops presenter fondled the terrified youngster under her skirt as she sat quivering on his lap.

Karin, who also alleged Sir Jimmy molested her in his car, said she felt “disgusted” and “ashamed”.

And she claimed she was also abused by a third celebrity in the same dressing room when she was just 14.

She now plans to make a complaint to the Metropolitan Police about the unnamed TV star.

Karin was a pupil at Duncroft special needs school in Surrey.

She claimed Sir Jimmy regularly abused girls from the school by taking them on trips to London to see his shows.

She told ITV News: “I saw Gary Glitter have sex with a girl in Jimmy Savile’s dressing room in that little alcove bit.

“I didn’t see it completely but that’s what was going on and nobody batted an eye-lid.

“Jimmy Savile had a girl on his lap and he had his hand up her skirt and inside her underwear. She came from Duncroft and she was 14 and we were good friends.

“The girl Gary Glitter was having sex with also came from Duncroft. I think she might have been not quite 14.”

Karin claims Sir Jimmy would bribe vulnerable girls with cigarettes and sweets in return for sex.

She added: “Everybody knew he was a perv and everybody knew he would be groping and wanting sex and wanting other worse things than just plain sex but he brought lots of nice things with him.

“He used to bring a thousand cigarettes with him and of course cigarettes was the currency in that kind of environment so girls just flocked around him.

“He brought sweeties. Sometimes he bought perfume, he brought make-up.”

She claims BBC production staff turned a blind eye. Karin also relived her horror of allegedly being abused by a TV personality in the same room.

“I didn’t like him because he smelled like my stepfather and it frightened me and freaked me out,” she said.

“I rebuffed him and he humiliated me in front of everyone in the dressing room by saying something really unkind about my lack of breasts, which to a 14-year-old girl was just awful.

“I’m almost certain that some of the production staff must have known what was going on.”

Meanwhile a gold plaque in Scarborough, where Sir Jimmy lived, was daubed with the words “rapist” and “paedeophile”.
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"I'm afraid the jury isn't out any more," said a distressed Esther Rantzen towards the end of last night's Exposure: The Other Side of Jimmy Savile, an ITV investigation into allegations of abuse by the disc jockey.

She had been making the point that this was a trial without a defence lawyer, but her demeanour suggested that she thought it would have been an impossible brief if there had been one.

The witnesses, she said, were too matter-of-fact, too consistent with each other, too clear in their memories of what had occurred. I suspect most viewers will have agreed.

And it wasn't just Savile that was in the dock but a set of social attitudes that now looked irresponsible at best, complicit in abuse at worst. "We all colluded with this, didn't we?" asked Rantzen. "We made him into the Jimmy Savile who couldn't be touched." Given what we'd heard about his pawing eagerness to be touched it was an unfortunate phrase. But the charge stuck.

The testimony of those who said they had been Savile's victims was grim enough – very credible accounts of star-struck children coaxed and pressed into escalating and uninvited sexual contact. And Savile's life-long willingness to gurn and leer at any camera nearby had provided the film's makers with a limitless supply of visual aids to help us reconstruct these scenes in the mind.

"Did he touch you intimately?" asked Mark Williams-Thompson, the former policeman who has spent a year researching the story. As his interviewee answered, you saw Savile, his eyes rolling in that cartoonish mask of lubricity behind which he concealed the real thing.

These girls either feared that they wouldn't be believed if they told – or had discovered for certain that they wouldn't be. One of those who complained about being touched by Savile during his regular visits to Duncroft Manor (an approved school which he seems to have treated as a private bordello) had been put in isolation and told she couldn't come out until she retracted her "filthy" accusations.

Savile's carefully groomed image as a mascot of do-goodery made it almost inconceivable that he might be doing very bad things indeed. But almost more shocking was the evidence of the men who'd actually seen this happening.

Wilfred De'ath, then a young BBC producer, stumbled through an account in which self-contradiction followed self-contradiction. "It was all hearsay," he said about the gossip, but then added: "He never attempted to hide this predilection."

One of the people Savile didn't hide it from, it became clear, was Wilfred De'ath, who found himself out on the town with Savile and a 12-year-old girl. The next day, when he phoned Savile in his hotel bedroom, it became clear the girl had spent the night with the DJ. De'ath seemed more disturbed that he had been required to make small talk with a child, than by the fact that a BBC star might have committed statutory rape. He didn't report it, he said, because "I wasn't a very strong person".

Alan Leeke, a Manchester-based journalist who went to interview Savile at his home on one occasion, didn't report it either. He said he saw Savile emerge from a bedroom to casually rinse himself down, having just had sex with a teenage girl. Leeke left soon afterwards. "I hadn't got a story," he said. "It was pretty plain he didn't want me there."

That extraordinary line – "I hadn't got a story" – was perhaps most telling of all. The crime was effectively invisible because no one cared to make a fuss. And that made Savile so confident he hardly bothered to hide. Well it's a story now, and a very convincing one, too.
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All articles that were on the front page has disappeared without trace from the BBC website and replaced with a small section in the England news whose headline reads "rapist" scrawled on memorial, damage limitation has kicked in I'm guessing

This is disgraceful they are still trying to cover it up!

I don't expect any investigation nor nothing, no more than just a sigh and a "oh well on with the news", kind of a approach to the matter.
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All articles that were on the front page has disappeared without trace from the BBC website and replaced with a small section in the England news whose headline reads "rapist" scrawled on memorial, damage limitation has kicked in I'm guessing

This is disgraceful they are still trying to cover it up!

I don't expect any investigation nor nothing, no more than just a sigh and a "oh well on with the news", kind of a approach to the matter.
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THE former boss of Radio 1 KNEW of accusations about Jimmy Savile and child sex abuse as long ago as 1973.
Worried station controller Douglas Muggeridge asked his press officer Rodney Collins if newspapers were planning to expose their star DJ.
Collins said last night: “He had not received a letter or anything official, but he had picked up a rumour from somewhere that Jimmy Savile was involved with underage girls.”
Collins said he reported back that papers were not planning to publish any stories — and the matter was not mentioned again.
But he added: “The BBC should now, having first of all said they knew nothing about this, co-operate with the police.

Revelation ... Rodney Collins
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“If anyone working there at the time had some knowledge of this they should put their hands up.”
Collins believes Muggeridge, who died in 1985, and the then BBC Radio managing director Ian Trethowan both knew of the rumours but found no evidence.
Last night a Beeb spokesman said: “The BBC has conducted searches of its files and has not found any written record of misconduct or allegations of misconduct by Jimmy Savile during his time at the BBC.”
Meanwhile, the corporation was blasted by a woman who told Newsnight investigators she saw pop perv Gary Glitter in Savile’s dressing room as a girl was abused.
The story was never aired because the BBC say they did not have enough evidence.
Karin Ward, who says she was a victim of the Jim’ll Fix It star when she was 14, slammed them for not investigating the rumours.

Savile ... with Gary Glitter and fan on Jim'll Fix It
She said she and other young teenage girls from Duncroft approved school in Staines, Surrey, were sexually abused by Savile as regular visitors to his Clunk-Click TV show at Television Centre in 1973/4.
She said: “We would go in his dressing room before the show and afterwards we would go to parties and to the Wimpy. He told me if I performed a sex act on him, I could go to London and be on TV.
“I think it was probably well known by the people that knew him best at the BBC. I do think there were people who objected, but they were probably silenced.
“Someone who raises so many millions of pounds for charity can be forgiven for a little grope here and there — that would have been the attitude.”
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By TREVOR KAVANAGH, Sun Columnist
SEEDY Jimmy Savile child abuse claims have landed new BBC boss George Entwistle with the ugliest scandal in broadcasting history.
Slowly and reluctantly, he has caved in to demands for a full inquiry, an internal investigation under employment procedures.
It will be limited to specific allegations about the weird cigar-chomping Jim’ll Fix It star.
If he is wise, Mr Entwistle will widen the probe to include ALL the skeletons now likely to come tumbling out of BBC cupboards.
Victims and viewers will be asking who knew what and when? Did Savile act alone? Was he part of a paedophile ring? The silence of fellow DJs is deafening.
How many other entertainers took advantage of their roles as BBC stars to assault fans? These questions should have been part of BBC Newsnight’s own report on Savile’s decades of perversion.
Last night, ITV dramatically ran the story Newsnight was ordered to scrap and revealed a catalogue of abuse by the wrinkly old fraud.
It is hard to believe Savile’s antics were unknown to colleagues and more senior staff whose silence was tantamount to consent.
He was frequently interrupted in his BBC Television Centre dressing room with his hand up young girls’ skirts. Rumours of this abuse of power were widely whispered.
Why did the BBC not take action then to investigate? It has a duty of care to vulnerable young fans who may be bullied by adults into silence and compliance.
It should have learned after creepy Top of the Pops star Jonathan King who was jailed in 2001 for sex with boys that the entertainment world is a haven for predatory perverts.
The Savile case is a horrific black mark against the Corporation. How much more evidence is required before the government orders a proper, thorough and independent public inquiry?


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz28IOn30vS
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Sir Jimmy Savile suggested to Coleen Nolan that she join him at a hotel when she was just 14-years-old, the singer revealed today.
In an interview today, the Nolan Sisters singer said Sir Jimmy made the invitation following a TV recording when she was just 14.
She had been in the Top Of The Pops studio, along with her chart star sisters who were appearing on the show.
Speaking on ITV1's Alan Titchmarsh Show, she said: "At the time I was 14 and it was just an uncomfortable situation.
"The girls were doing Top Of The Pops and I stood with him while he made the announcement and it was an uncomfortable situation, the way he held me and then he mentioned about going to a hotel.
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"But you didn't talk about those things then."
The new claims comes as Rodney Collins, who was head of press for the BBC pop music station at the time, has disclosed that he looked into whether or not newspapers were investigating rumours about the DJ’s involvement with young girls.
He said he was asked to do so in 1973 by the late Douglas Muggeridge, then the Controller of Radio 1 and 2.
His claims put fresh pressure on the corporation, which has been accused of turning a blind eye to repeated claims of inappropriate behaviour by the eccentric presenter, who died last year aged 84.
In the past week 11 women have come forward to say that Savile forced himself on them when they were schoolgirls, some in BBC dressing rooms, with more details emerging in an ITV documentary on Wednesday night.
The BBC’s Newsnight pulled a similar programme last year, claiming it could not substantiate the allegations.
The BBC has said it is “horrified” by the claims and that its Investigations Unit is to work with police in looking for evidence, but insisted that “extensive searches” of old files have found no record of misconduct allegations against Savile.
But Mr Collins insisted: “For the BBC to say they weren’t aware of anything, they certainly were.”
He told how in 1973 Muggeridge asked to see him “especially” about Savile, who at the time was a presenter on Top of the Pops as well as a Radio 1 DJ.
“He said ‘look, I have heard things about Jimmy Savile but I need to know whether they’re going to end up in a newspaper. Can you check with some papers for me and let me know?’
“All he told me was that there were allegations about a programme called Savile’s Travels that went round the country for Radio 1. Jimmy in a caravan and they used to broadcast from various places and go up to you and say ‘what record would you like us to play?’
“There were allegations that there were girls – underage girls – involved, maybe in the caravan.”
Mr Collins said tabloid and London newspapers told him they were aware of the allegations, but that they wouldn’t run them because Savile was popular and did a lot of charity work.
A BBC spokesman said: “The comments made by the former press officer reflect a conversation that he says he had in 1973 about allegations that the controller of Radio 1 had heard but he does not refer to any formal complaint having been made.
"The BBC has conducted searches of the its files and has not found any record of allegations of misconduct by Jimmy Savile during his time at the BBC. We are now working with police forces to help them investigate these matters. We are also keeping our searches for information under review as and when new information comes to light.”
Lord Grade, a former controller of BBC1, has also admitted he heard rumours and “question marks” about Savile’s conduct, but insisted: “I never heard anything that gave me cause to think we should investigate or do anything about it.”
Meanwhile the growing number of claims about Savile are causing unease among public authorities across the country.
A £40million project to turn the star’s former Scottish home into a respite centre for disabled children is in “limbo”, a charity trustee said.
There have even been calls for the Cabinet Office to posthumously strip Savile of his knighthood but sources suggested this would be unlikely as the honours cease to exist upon a person’s death.
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Jimmy Savile and other 1970s sleazebags would find it hard to abuse teenage girls today – thanks to the internet
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Savile wouldn't be able to rely on secrecy today
It was unsettling to watch former the BBC Director General, Michael Grade, and the music journalist, David Hepworth, discussing "groupie culture" on Channel 4 News last night. The pair seemed to conclude that the environment in which Jimmy Savile is alleged to have sexually abused a string of teenage girls was ultimately par for the course in the 1960s and 70s.
With the detachment of a historian pondering the mores of the ancient Greeks, Hepworth opined: "It wasn't seen as being as sinister as it is seen as being nowadays. You'd have huge rock names who had girlfriends who were 16, 17, or even younger and nobody would write about it. Nobody would particularly bother about it." Apparently abuse and exploitation were accepted side-effects of pop music in those halcyon days or, as Hepworth put it, "just part of the showbiz mix".
Grade recounted the tale of his father, Leslie, booking a British tour for Jerry Lee Lewis in the late Fifties. The gigs were cancelled because the rocker had brought his 13-year-old bride along. As he shared the anecdote, Grade chuckled.
The sleazy behaviour was endemic in the rock and pop world and was accepted well into the late Seventies. Rock biographies brim with tales of famous men pursued by and pursuing underage girls. As Julie Burchill has noted, even cosy old John Peel spoke blithely of women who wanted him to "abuse them" and of the allure of school girls.
In all this discussion of the "golden" days when musicians could avail themselves of underage girls with impunity, Grade did make one good point: "I think it's incredibly difficult to keep anything secret today… I think your chances of being exposed are much greater today."
He's right. Were a star of Savile's magnitude to behave in the way he is alleged to have done today, they would be caught out fast. The spread of mobile phone cameras means practically everyone has a recording device in their pocket. A television presenter checking into hotels with underage girls or dining with them in public, as Sir Jimmy is said to have done, would soon find their crimes splashed across the tabloids.
The internet has made it easier for sex offenders to gather and share vile material but online activity also leaves more traces. Hard drives hold many secrets even when their owners attempt to erase them.
I genuinely do not believe an abuser as famous as Savile would be able to so flagrantly commit such crimes today. For good and for ill, we live in a more open world where conspiracies of silence cannot hold. Rumours spread faster and evidence is more easily collated.
The BBC's cries that it is has no complaints on file regarding Savile's conduct are meaningless. The discussions were simply not written down. That's much less likely to happen in this age of texts, tweets and emails. In fact, it's often shocking how much people put on the digital record including extremely compromising details.
It was grimly appropriate that Channel 4 chose two middle-aged men to opine on the treatment of girls in the 60s and 70s. Those women, dismissed as "groupies", had far fewer chances to speak out then, less of a platform and a voice than the celebrities who exploited them.
Today, anyone can share their story online for free. Powerful and celebrated figures can no longer assume their misdeeds will be kept under wraps. It is not just governments that must worry about their secrets in this post-Wikileaks world. And I, for one, am glad.
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'I saw Gary Glitter and Jimmy Savile abusing kids... and another celebrity groped ...
Mirror.co.uk - ‎3 hours ago‎
Pals: Saviile and Glitter on the show with a girl (face obscured) in 1991. A male entertainer, a household name in the 80s, was last night accused of sexually abusing a child in Jimmy Savile's dressing room along with the Jim'll Fix It star and singer Gary Glitter.
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Sir Jimmy Savile Scarborough plaque defaced
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A memorial plaque at the former Scarborough home of Sir Jimmy Savile has been defaced with graffiti. The words "paedophile" and "rapist" were scrawled over the plaque at the entertainer's flat on the Esplanade. Scarborough Civic Society installed the ...
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Boss of BBC Radio 1 'knew Jimmy Savile was abusing young girls'
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The BBC boss who oversaw Sir Jimmy Savile's popular Radio 1 shows in the early 1970s was aware of allegations of sexual abuse involving the Top of The Pops presenter, it has emerged. The late Douglas Muggeridge, a former Radio 1 controller, asked ...
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Woman who claims she was abused by Jimmy Savile says she saw Gary Glitter ...
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'Jimmy Savile had a [14-year-old] girl on his lap and he had his hand up her skirt. The girl Gary Glitter was having sex with also came from Duncroft. I think she might have been not quite 14.' Alleged victim: Karin ward, pictured, spoke to former detective Mark ...
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Documentary details Savile claims
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In Exposed: The Other Side of Jimmy Savile, a total of five women claimed they were indecently assaulted by the TV and radio personality when they were schoolgirls in the late 1960s and 1970s. Two of the alleged victims said they first had sexual relations ...
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ANDERS: WHAT A LOAD OF OLD FUCKING

BOLLOCKS

EH?????

JUST

LOOK!!!

AT HOW THE RATS ARE POSITIONING THEMSELVES!!!

FAKE CROCODILE TEARS FROM MS RANCID!!!!!

DISGUSTING!

AND SHE KNEW ABOUT IT!

SO DID LORD GRADE!

CUNTS!!!!!

CUNTS CUNTS CUNTS!


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Stoke Mandeville Hospital shock at Jimmy Savile claims
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Savile Abuse Claims: New Guidance For Police
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Police forces across the country have been advised to prepare for more alleged victims of Sir Jimmy Savile coming forward following claims he raped and abused young girls in the 1970s. The Association of Chief Police Officers has issued guidance to all ...
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I saw Esther Rantzen's tears as crocodile (reptilian?!) too

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did anyone get a screen grab of the picture of him in the documentary wearing what looked like a robe with esoteric symbols on?
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I've been thinking of cancelling my DD for a while now and this has just made me decide to do it. To all of you who are not paying your licence, how do you get away with it? I mean I'm sure it doesn't take long until they're banging your door down?
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Massively connected to the elite, basically a Knight of Malta, etc. Something has happened behind the scenes to enable this documentary to get a green light (not just his demise), but don't expect investigations to go too far down the rabbit hole, it'll soon be yesterday's news, and the blame for all the paedophilia in the world will be squarely laid at the feet of a dead man who can't answer back, nor can he implicate high ranking figures in every profession.
BINGO!

There must be other victims out there, including young girl and boy victims who he introduced to higher ups.

There is a window of opportunity for them to come forward no?
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I've been thinking of cancelling my DD for a while now and this has just made me decide to do it. To all of you who are not paying your licence, how do you get away with it? I mean I'm sure it doesn't take long until they're banging your door down?
You can legally own a tv without a license and watch what you like a day after broadcast. So you can watch as much tv as you like on demand, on youtube, on torrents, VHS, DVD... I am in this camp and so are others here.

Some here watch or record tv live without a license. It's the watching or recording live tv that requires a license. However, these folks will avoid license fee by ignoring all correspondence from the BBC/Capita etc... ultimately the BBC/Capita need to first identify you for a fine in court to be a possibility, and it takes your admission of guilt via your signature for court proceedings to proceed. So even if caught, no signature means no fine.. as far as I understand it.
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Just another slant on things : the time significance is very important. In this country we have the stories of Megan Stammers, Jimmy Saville and April Jones all focussing energies etc about child sex during a time of the strongest full moon of the year. Plus there's a very negative, powerful planetary alignment that hasn't been seen since the early thirties.

I'm not really into this stuff, but the powers that be certainly are. The current conjunction with the other planets is bringing about a time of inner reflection and challenging emotions, this time of year is generally viewed as a "The Time of Illumination".

This moon also represents the energy of the Lizard - Uranus Square Plato - it's the most powerful moon of the year, and if we don't respond to it positively and allow a clearing process to occur (something that isn't generally happening), then we allow the lower energies (fear, anxiety etc) of the self to be ILLUMINATED out around us.

You can bet your last penny that some big rituals are taking place because, along with all this energy, it's also a time of dream fulfillment and bringing out your inner/true self. Make of that what you will.
Interesting indeed!
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You can legally own a tv without a license. You can legally watch what you like a day after broadcast. So you can watch as much tv as you like on demand, on youtube, on torrents, VHS, DVD... I am in this camp and so are others here.

Some here watch or record tv live without a license. It's the watching or recording live tv that requires a license. However, these folks will avoid license fee by ignoring all correspondence from the BBC/Capita etc... ultimately the BBC/Capita need to first identify you for a fine in court to be a possibility, and it takes your admission of guilt via your signature for court proceedings to proceed. So even if caught, no signature means no fine.. as far as I understand it.
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