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Football Manager Dave Jones.... Jonathan King, who can prove that he was not even in the country during the dates he was convicted of....

So many people having their lives disrupted because of the way the judicial service works in this country.

It's like McCarthyism, accuse someone of being a Paedo and hope they shut up and go away, but destroy them in the process.
The shocking evidence that Jimmy Savile DID abuse underage girls - by FOUR of his victims
Jim'll Fix It star alleged to have given girls cash, cigarettes and records in return for 'sexual favours'
'Explosive' documentary set to be screened on ITV next Wednesday
Family hits out against the 'one-sided' programme that 'cashes in' on a man who can't defend himself
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PUBLISHED: 18:44, 28 September 2012 | UPDATED: 23:45, 29 September 2012
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THE shocking testimonies of four women who accuse the late Sir Jimmy Savile of sexually abusing them as children can be revealed today.
The Mail on Sunday has been given an exclusive preview of an explosive 55-minute ITV documentary to be screened on Wednesday.
In Exposure: The Other Side Of Jimmy Savile, in which the women, now all middle-aged, offer compelling accounts of how they were groomed by Savile for sex when they were teenagers.

Shocking testimonies: Four women, now all middle-aged, have offered compelling accounts of how they were groomed by Jimmy Savile, pictured, for sex when they were teenagers in an ITV documentary
The documentary also features damning contributions from former BBC production staff who reveal that the star’s predatory behaviour with girls as young as 12 was an open secret. And a child protection expert who investigated the claims for ITV tells the programme he is convinced Savile, who died last year, would face arrest if still alive.
Mark Williams-Thomas, who for 12 years was a detective and child protection officer, spent a year talking to Savile’s former victims.

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He told The Mail on Sunday: ‘They were in awe of an individual who could give them a great number of benefits, and so the abuse could go on and on unchecked. The women thought no one would believe them then, and even now they are terrified of the potential backlash from his fans and from his estate. But I have no doubt that on the evidence I have gathered, if Savile was still alive I would be banging on his door to get him nicked.’

'He was all over me': 14-year-old Coleen Nolan (pictured with Savile on Top Of The Pops in 1979) said she was horrified when he intimately cuddled her on the show
Mr Williams-Thomas was a child protection officer with Surrey Police and worked on the prosecution of pop impresario Jonathan King on charges of sex with underage boys.
Since leaving the police, he has become a consultant on child protection and fronted the ITV documentary To Catch A Paedophile.
He said: ‘Early last year I was asked by a contact if I was aware of allegations that had circulated for years about Savile and young girls and if I knew of an investigation into a complaint made to Surrey police in 2007.
'He put his hand up my skirt. There were dozens of times after that. When I was 16 it turned into full sex.'
Val, 15, Top Of The Pops 1968
‘When Savile died, I began an investigation and was put in contact with several women who alleged they had been abused by him.’
He has learned that at least two complaints were made to Surrey Police about Savile while he was alive, though the force refuses to say whether he was formally interviewed.
The shocking conclusion of his investigation is that Savile, who was the face of Top Of The Pops for three decades as well as Jim’ll Fix It, groomed girls as young as 12 for sex.
Savile’s victims tell strikingly similar stories in the documentary, which is to be screened at 11pm – two hours after the watershed.

Explosive: The documentary claims that Savile, who famously presented the first ever Top of the Pops, gave young girls money and cigarettes in return for 'sexual favours'
Until his death at 84, Savile was seen as an outlandish but avuncular star who loved tracksuits and ostentatious jewellery. But despite his tireless charity work, he never escaped dark rumours about his lifestyle. The ITV investigation makes concrete allegations for the first time.
One woman identified in the programme only as ‘Val’ met Savile on Top Of The Pops in 1968 when she was 15. She says: ‘He got me into an alcove in his dressing room and pushed me against the wall. He put his hand up my skirt.
'He invited me to his hotel and before I knew it he had me on the bed and was having sex. It was repulsive what he was doing to me and other girls.'
Angie, 15, Top Of The Pops 1968
‘There were dozens of times after that when I met him. He’d pin me up against a wall, a corridor, wherever he could he’d grab an opportunity. When I was 16 one of these occasions turned into full sex.
‘He kept saying he wouldn’t go the whole way but when I tried to push him off he held me down with his body weight. I later discovered he’d given me a sexually transmitted disease.’
She adds: ‘I was very young and he was a charismatic and powerful personality. There was an air about him that he had power and contacts and you didn’t want to mess with him.’
Another woman, ‘Angie’, tells a similar tale of meeting Savile on Top Of The Pops in 1968, also aged 15. ‘He invited me to come round to his hotel and before I knew it he had me on the bed and was having sex with me.
‘He had a little couch in his dressing room and we’d have sex there or sometimes he’d pin me up against the wall. It was all very unemotional on his part. I was a teenager and very naive and I blamed myself for what he did.’

Had he been alive: Savile, who died last year, would have faced arrest if still alive, a child protection expert claims on the documentary
Wilfred De’Ath was a young Oxford-educated BBC producer working on radio talk show Teen Scene when he first encountered Savile. Mr De’Ath, now 75, appears on the ITV programme and was also interviewed by The Mail on Sunday. He said he was stunned when Savile invited him to a Chinese restaurant called The Lotus House, a popular celebrity haunt in London, where he found the DJ sitting on a banquette with a young girl.
‘He told me he had met the girl – who was small and waif-like – on Top Of The Pops the night before. She was very young, I’d say near to 12.
'I remember the teacher introducing me and saying, "Be nice to uncle Jimmy". I was told to sit on his lap and I felt his hand go up my jumper.'
Charlotte, Duncroft schoolgirl 1974
‘Savile arranged to meet me in a London hotel called The Mascot, which was a very seedy place off Baker Street, the next day. When I called up to his room he told me that he was in bed with the girl I’d met the night before and he even got her to talk to me on the phone. I remember her saying, “Hello Mr Producer”. I didn’t want to carry on talking.
‘I told him he was living incredibly dangerously and he replied, “No, no, no, I’m far too valuable to the BBC for anything to happen to me”.
‘It appeared to be generally accepted that he was usually in the company of young girls. I know it sounds cowardly, but there was the feeling that if I grassed to the top end of the BBC then I would have been out.’
Another BBC employee, Sue Thompson, was a production assistant on TV show Speakeasy in 1978 when she encountered Savile with a girl she believes was 14.

Former detective Mark Williams-Thomas said he has interviewed women who say Savile sexually abused them
‘As I walked into his dressing room, he was sitting in a chair with the girl on his knee. His left arm was resting on her leg and he was kissing her. There was no doubt in my mind it was a sexual advance.’ In January it emerged that a probe by BBC2’s Newsnight into allegations about Savile had been shelved. There were suspicions of a cover-up, but Newsnight editor Peter Rippon told The Mail on Sunday it was dropped for editorial reasons. ‘We were pursuing a particular angle which we were unable to substantiate,’ he said.
Singer Coleen Nolan, who does not appear in the ITV programme, revealed four years ago that she was horrified when Savile intimately cuddled her in 1979 on Top Of The Pops when she was 14. She said: ‘He was all over me. I could see my sisters glaring, “You touch her and we’ ll kill you!” – and they would have done.’
In 2007, Surrey Police received complaints that Savile had abused pupils at the now defunct Duncroft Approved School for Girls near Staines, for which he did charity work in the Seventies. The investigation was dropped after a Crown Prosecution Service lawyer advised no further action be taken.
In ITV’s documentary two ex-Duncroft pupils talk about Savile. One, Charlotte, recalls being introduced to him in a caravan in the grounds in 1974. ‘The teacher told me to sit on his lap and then I felt his hand go up my jumper. I shouted at him, “What do you think you are doing?” and the next thing I knew I was dragged out of the caravan by two of the staff.
‘I was told that Savile did nothing but good for the school and that I needed to apologise. I was put into isolation for three days.
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He was a horrible man. I've heard personal stories from my family about him. But it means nothing and doesn't automatically translate into being a kiddie fiddler. If you read the stories about paedos and molesters, it's very normally the quiet ones doing it....

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Shame on you.

SHAME
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The Telegraph have run this story, and were accepting comments, yet these have strangely disappeared, its looks like this guy can still pull strings from beyond the grave?
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This stinks, come forward and claim a very rich man abused you just after he dies, guaranteed to generate you lots of money.

Mathew kelly and others have been accused of this, from people trying to get a payout, it stinks...


Anyone who comes forward to claim this kind of thing should go through lie detector tests... Why don't they do that?
Oh, come on. There has been persistent conjecture and rumours for many years, even David Icke has said he was an 'abomination of a human being' and not content with sexually abusing living children, but also sexually abusing dead bodies. Do you really believe he wasn't a paedophile?
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The Telegraph have run this story, and were accepting comments, yet these have strangely disappeared, its looks like this guy can still pull strings from beyond the grave?
Of course he can! He has all the dirt on the politcians and the royals! There will be a lot of worried people out there hping this will be the end of it. It won't, the dam has burst and you can bet a lot more will be coming out. Tip of the iceberg so far. Remember, he was on the sene at one of the Yorkshire ripper's murders. RIGHT on the scene. The YR operated on Sa VILE's patch. Later they 'become' best friends at Broadmoor.

Riiiiiggght.

VILE used to hang around and have access to morticians and mortuaries up and down the country. Figure it out.

Also spotted at the Haute de la Garenne care home in Jersey, where many children perished.

At first he denied visiting there, until a newspaper published a picture of him there with 30 odd children all around him. Rumour is he had his mother put in a care home there, rather than Leeds, so he had an excuse to visit the shitty little island regularly. Place is CRAWLING with wealthy paedos.

Read the Stuart Syvret blog, and pie n mash films for more.

So - a practised liar, and fearsome litigator.

THAT is why nobody believed the children at the time of their rapes. Well, actually the authorities did, but the word was out - he was untouchable. Knew literally where all the bodies were buried.

That's how the newsnight doc was dropped at the last minute just after his death - for 'editorial reasons'

Translation? Don't you dare, from above.
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Once again Anders777 is using a 'hit piece' from a mainstream rag as his SOLE piece of evidence. It's getting tiresome.
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But it means nothing But it means nothing But it means nothing But it means nothing But it means nothing But it means nothing But it means nothing But it means nothing But it means nothing But it means nothing But it means nothing But it means nothing But it means nothing But it means nothing But it means nothing But it means nothing But it means nothing But it means nothing But it means nothing But it means nothing But it means nothing But it means nothing



Shame on you.

SHAME
No, the real shame is someone kicking someone when they are dead and not able to fight back, no matter how you perceive they are.

And on top of that shame, that you fail to produce one piece of non MSM 'evidence' for your obsession of Savile.

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Of course he can! He has all the dirt on the politcians and the royals! There will be a lot of worried people out there hping this will be the end of it. It won't, the dam has burst and you can bet a lot more will be coming out. Tip of the iceberg so far. Remember, he was on the sene at one of the Yorkshire ripper's murders. RIGHT on the scene. The YR operated on Sa VILE's patch. Later they 'become' best friends at Broadmoor.

Riiiiiggght.

VILE used to hang around and have access to morticians and mortuaries up and down the country. Figure it out.
Just about every Doctor, nurse, porter and probably clerical worker of a hospital would have access to mortuaries. Are you saying everyone of them is a necrophiliac?

As for linking the Yorkshire Ripper crimes to Savile. That's pretty desperate. 6 of the 13 were in Leeds, although 2 of those you could argue were the outskirts of the city. He wasn't called the Leeds Ripper, but the YORKSHIRE Ripper. And again anyone who lived in Yorkshire - and Manchester too don't forget with two murders there - could also have been 'linked' in your mindset.

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Also spotted at the Haute de la Garenne care home in Jersey, where many children perished.
Prove it.

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At first he denied visiting there, until a newspaper published a picture of him there with 30 odd children all around him. Rumour is he had his mother put in a care home there, rather than Leeds, so he had an excuse to visit the shitty little island regularly. Place is CRAWLING with wealthy paedos.
That photograph has been discredited.

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Read the Stuart Syvret blog, and pie n mash films for more.
Good documentaries yes, but no real evidence other than hearsay.

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So - a practised liar, and fearsome litigator.
Might have been both, but it doesn't prove he was a paedo.

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THAT is why nobody believed the children at the time of their rapes. Well, actually the authorities did, but the word was out - he was untouchable. Knew literally where all the bodies were buried.
Why didn't these now grown up children take these stories to someone like Max Clifford, who has done the 'dirty' on several celebs, Ministers and companies.

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That's how the newsnight doc was dropped at the last minute just after his death - for 'editorial reasons'
Perhaps it was because they could not find any actual real evidence?

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Translation? Don't you dare, from above.
Could you translate that bit?

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Oh, come on. There has been persistent conjecture and rumours for many years, even David Icke has said he was an 'abomination of a human being' and not content with sexually abusing living children, but also sexually abusing dead bodies. Do you really believe he wasn't a paedophile?
The BBC is awash with rumours about people, and this is probably where the Savile 'conjecture' came from. It's a very nasty place to work, and David Icke has said that himself.

Being a horrible human being like I believe he was doesn't mean that he is likely to touch up a 13 year old though, does it? If he did, well OK, lets see some proper evidence and not a MSM fit up.

A Police officer saying 'well if he was alive he'd be arrested', well, OK, where were these people to accuse him when he was alive? Have they merely sprung up for some Kerching? Being a victim pays well, being a false victim pays just as well, with no one to prove anything. Could these victims discuss any 'marks' on Savile that no one else would have known about? Was he circumcised or uncircumcised? It's basic research stuff.

I'm amazed that some posters cannot see the irony that they believe the MSM when they present something that fits their particular mindset.....
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Oh, come on. There has been persistent conjecture and rumours for many years, even David Icke has said he was an 'abomination of a human being' and not content with sexually abusing living children, but also sexually abusing dead bodies. Do you really believe he wasn't a paedophile?
Ever heard of "innocent until proven guilty". ?

Regardless of how odd or strange he is, doesn't prove anything..

So you think someone simply claiming such a thing is sufficient evidence to such a heinous crime?

Should be given lie detector tests no doubt..
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Ever heard of "innocent until proven guilty". ?

Regardless of how odd or strange he is, doesn't prove anything..

So you think someone simply claiming such a thing is sufficient evidence to such a heinous crime?

Should be given lie detector tests no doubt..
Perhaps he was, perhaps he did know where the skeletons were, but none of this matters without evidence.
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to answer the question why would they wait until he was dead to do this

I would imagine they knew if they convicted him he would name names and drag some establishment figures down with him. Not much chance of him blowing the whistle of any high placed associates who aided him now though
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lets just hope this is fully investigated properly... dead or alive I don't give a damn if these girls really did get abused by saville they should be able to provide all the evidence needed to prove he was an abuser...

I still don't understand though, if saville was so influential and powerful behind the scenes, how is all this even coming out now? Why would the ptb want to smear his name now and let the victims speak out and even to air such a documentary? If exposing savilles dirty doings may lead to the exposure of pedo rings within they entertainment industry why are they letting this happen? All seems like just a pantomime to me...
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Ever heard of "innocent until proven guilty". ?
Yes, of course. So the NWO elite are innocent of their crimes against humans because they haven't been found guilty. Father Bush and Ted Heath are innocent of peadophillia. Yeah, whatever. I believe Saville was a depraved, evil paedophile who was GUILTY. Nice to know the truth is finally surfacing in the MSM and hopefully the victims will get some closure from all this.
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wasnt this creepy looking motherfucker once invited to israel, where he gave a speech to the government telling them off (wtf) for not repressing the palestinians as much as they should have been?
That was a surprise me to me, but this article goes into some detail. I wonder if that girl will still be as happy that he came to her batmitzvah?

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/57...-my-batmitzvah
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What worries be is what stuff he got up to with Charlie and Phillip.... I guess no one will ever know.
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I would like to near from Gary Merrie, who went to Israel with him for the show, sounds like he could have an interesting story.
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Yes, of course. So the NWO elite are innocent of their crimes against humans because they haven't been found guilty. Father Bush and Ted Heath are innocent of peadophillia. Yeah, whatever. I believe Saville was a depraved, evil paedophile who was GUILTY. Nice to know the truth is finally surfacing in the MSM and hopefully the victims will get some closure from all this.



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No.. I don't know.. thats the whole point... nobody on this forum really does know do they.

He may very well be a perv.. But on the basis hes a bit different is stupid...

There should be concrete proof before making such allegations on national TV.. Which is why I say lie detector tests...

How is that no reasonable? How many peeps have claimed celebs raped them, or something like this only to be found out it wasn't true?? Well.. quite alot...

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The people on here defending him would probably have been saying the same thing about Jonathan King years ago,no proof blah blah blah.

Its okay to have your rosy image of childhood shattered you know...jiml fix it was a nonce!

and yes we knew it back then just by taking one look at the sleaze bag.My sister worked in the past for Endemol which was mainly a channel four company.It was common knowledge in media circles along with Glitter and Jonathan king.
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