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ffs the man isnt here to defend himself. trial by TV yet again.
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ffs the man isnt here to defend himself. trial by TV yet again.
The women were terrified of how powerful he was the man was best pals with the queen the pope and prime minister of Israel.
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grand secretary as he calls himself needs to get off this forum as soon as possible please. what are you doing on here anyway? this is a forum for "us" and you are quite clearly "them".

jimmy saville is bisexual and he also like kids, but his sexual orientation is much worse, probably the worst you can think of.

put it this way he has or did have some contacts at morgues around the country and he paid them for access to their, shall we say, clients.

this was a well known fact among the movers and shakers in the media, the news and entertainment industries but he has so much information on these people and so much clout that if this horrible truth ever came out they'd lose their jobs or worse. that is 100% true.

i have no idea what he's doing with the mentally ill frank bruno and the mentally ill peter sutcliffe but this is sending a message to someone. remember nothing happens by chance and this is clearly staged.

...also sutcliffe didn't do all the murders he was supposed to. he took the wrap for some of them and the person (persons to be more precise) killing prostitutes is/are still active today and was/were responsible for many murders reported in the newpapers even today. that's not 100% true but it's close.
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non fiction biog site pulls up an interesting story about a witness account of Saville and some other celebrities

I imagine the reason this is coming out now is because it's being carefully stage managed for damage limitation and to protect establishment figures who could have been out by Saville had this happened when he was alive

anyone remember the Dutroux Case in Belgium a few years ago?

Saville witness account:

http://www.fanstory.com/displaystory.jsp?id=363399

The first time a celebrity visited Duncroft I hung back, reluctant to meet the esteemed gentleman. Up until very recently, I could only refer to this man as 'JS' because he was still alive and I did not want a law-suit on my hands; I have now no reason whatsoever to hide the truth any longer because he died a few weeks ago and I had some reporters and a camera crew in my living room at home whilst I actually spoke of these events. The fact that the good old British Broadccasting Corporation then successfully 'gagged' the reporters makes no difference at all. Sadly, that reporter (a relative of Miss Maggie Jones no less) then handed my personal details to all manner of other reporters who are now plaguing me with telephone calls and begging me to re-do the interview with them. I am only one week away from major bowel surgery and speaking of it on camera upset and scared me more than merely writing it down does -- although that isn't easy either.

The celebrity visitor to Duncroft was none other than Sir Jimmy Savile OBE.
Girls flocked to gain attention from him. He came the first time in a smart, orangey-red sports car. It was probably something wonderfully expensive, but I've never been that interested in cars so I don't remember. Anyway, it was powerful and low to the ground. A group of girls set to with a will, supervised by Theo, to clean and polish it. Their 'reward' was to be taken on an outing with Sir Jimmy.

Jimmy Savile smoked huge, smelly cigars, but he always brought a huge quantity of duty-free cigarettes with him which he shared out between the girls. Once I realised there were free cigarettes to be had, I became much more interested.

Miss Jones, the headmistress, spent hours with Jimmy Saville; I could hear them chatting and laughing from her study. On those days, the food was much better prepared and presented. I looked forward to Jimmy Savile visiting because it meant pleasant food, rides down the lane in his sports car and extra cigarettes.

Sadly, it also meant one had to put up with being mauled and groped when he pulled into a lay-by some five miles along the road. I wasn't the only girl that Sir Jimmy favoured with this either. In fact, he often tried to press me to 'go further' than simply fondling him and allowing him to grope inside my knickers and at my partly formed breasts. He promised me all manner of good things if I would give him oral sex.

In fact, when he vowed one day, that if I gave him oral sex, I and a few other girls could come to BBC Television Centre and be on his television show, I agreed. Fortunately, due to the lithium I was taking, I have very little recollection of that event, although I do remember gagging violently as I tried to comply and the alarmed Sir Jimmy reaching across to fling the passenger door open and urge me to vomit 'outside the car'.

Maybe I did vomit. I do not recall. In any event, Jimmy was pleased with me and told me he would make arrangements with Miss Jones to have me and some other girls on his show regularly.

I told Tonia and Frances what had happened. I was mightily surprised to learn how Frances had also experienced an almost identical event when 'out for a drive' with him the previous week.

"I wouldn't give any bloke a blow on a promise," Tonia retorted. "You see the colour of their money first, then only do what you absolutely have to. Lucky for me, I'm fat and he doesn't fancy me. I only had to give him a wank!"

We giggled about it. How strange; we had all been abused by a very well known celebrity, renowned for his 'good deeds' and unending work with people less fortunate than himself and yet we were laughing, as if it were the most normal thing in the world. My insides twist now at those vague memories. Maybe it is a good thing I do not have total recall.

More than a month passed by and I still hadn't been sent 'home' for a weekend - for which I found myself profoundly grateful. Other girls went and returned, some of them happy, others clearly upset and miserable. I really did not want to have to see my horrible mother or even Nana.

Sir Jimmy Savile did keep his promise. The first time we were taken to London there were eight of us. All the rest of the girls had gone home for the weekend. We were escorted into Television Centre and taken to see Sir Jimmy in his 'dressing room'.

The air hung thick with his foul cigar smoke. He laughed and joked with Miss Jones, Theo and every girl close enough to speak to. We were to be introduced to some of his guests on the show before it began.

Now my recollections of meeting with these guests are very vivid, not least because at least one of them has since been prosecuted for sexual misconduct with minors. Don't get me wrong. Not every celebrity we met was a closet paedophile.

Over several weeks, I met a great many male and female celebrities, some of whom I remember fondly for their intelligence, wit and general pleasant demeanour. However, of those who had similar tastes to Jimmy Savile - a liking of under-age girls, I can only recall vague disgust and horror.

One particular celebrity, a very popular comedian of the time, whom I shall simply refer to as 'F', absolutely stank of booze and sweat. His hands wandered incessantly; he had absolutely no qualms whatever about any one of the girls seeing what he was doing to any of the others. The fact that we sat in his dressing room with him, drinking vodka or Bacardi rum whilst he blatantly selected which girl to humiliate amazes me.
I cannot recall where Miss Jones and Theo were. Surely, they must have known what was going on?

Even so, there were no acts of violence or threats. No-one was hit or taken against their will. I refused 'F' because getting anywhere near him made me heave. He smelled far too much like my step-father for my liking. 'F' made some rather cruel remarks about my lack of breasts by way of getting back at me for refusing him. Everyone laughed whilst I burned with humiliation.

Another celebrity, whom I can only refer to as 'G' showered those he sexually abused (on the day we met him) with expensive perfume, cigarettes and promises of tickets to one of his shows. He didn't touch me, although I watched in a detached fashion as he had full sex with one of the other girls in the dressing room into which we were all crammed.

I am perfectly certain the BBC had no idea whatsoever of the goings on. Stars were not disturbed in their dressing rooms as a rule. Jimmy Savile often took us all out after the show had aired - celebrity guests and all; this only made it even easier for abuse to occur. Miss 'Maggie' Jones always acceded to requests from celebrities to take girls elsewhere, although she pretended to be stern with the men, extracting solemn promises to have the girls back by the time we had to leave.

To this end, I spent a very pleasant hour with David Bowie in an exclusive London coffee-shop come bar. I can mention Mr. Bowie without fear of reprisal as the man was a perfect gentleman. His conversation was intelligent; he was sensitive and most concerned about me and the strict regime at Duncroft. He sympathized with me when I told him all my hopes and dreams had been dashed before they'd even been truly born. He further gave me some good advice (now I look back on it), telling me to live each day to the full, as it comes, and simply see where life leads. With astonishing foresight he told me that all subjects would soon be studied by people of all ages and it was never too late to start out in a new direction.

I told him I often wrote poetry which I should one day like to convert into songs. His odd coloured eyes twinkled as he told me writing poetry was a good start. He said he'd try to keep in touch and also, if he used any of my material, he'd pay handsomely for it.

Sadly, I only ever saw him once. That he was successful and very busy is without doubt, but I often wonder if he ever recalls that skinny, mousy-haired girl he passed an hour with after the Jimmy Savile television show.

The list of celebrities I met during weekends in the company of Jimmy Savile is a long one. I acquired an autograph book and had almost filled it before I left Duncroft. I've no idea what happened to the book. I moved about so much in later years it became lost. I should like to have it and look back on it - although maybe not. Doing so might revive some memories I have mercifully blanked out and forgotten.

Being in Grade One because I had behaved so well had other privileges apart from stopping up late and getting extra cigarettes. I got to go outside more frequently, into the grounds. There was a tennis court and often, either Theo or another girl were more than happy to play tennis with me.

Theo observed that I had a good technique and she thought I had promise as a tennis player. To that end, she found someone to come along and coach me once a week. Again, I do not recall the man's name, but he was a hard task-master and accepted no excuses. Gradually, I learned to play with a lot more power and accuracy. Theo said she would ask Miss Jones if I could be entered into tournaments; maybe I was good enough to win.

I forgot all about escaping the confines of Duncroft for a long, long while. I studied hard in English - not because anyone else wanted me to, but because I wanted to. I did very well in the typing and shorthand lessons and sat several exams, which I passed with Distinctions.

After some three months, Miss Jones called me to her office one Friday afternoon. I had been waiting to hear whether or not I would be permitted to enter a tennis tournament, so I was appalled when Miss Jones looked me up and down before telling me to collect an overnight bag from Miss Keenan as I would be going home for the weekend - immediately after tea.

"What? But ... but I don't want to go home! How will I get there? Can't I stay here?"

Miss Jones lowered her spectacles so they perched right on the end of her long, sharp nose. She regarded me with the same distaste one might reserve for a particularly unpleasant insect.

"Don't be so silly, Keri. It has taken a long time to get this weekend arranged. I understand your mother has been moving house again. She is coming to collect you; I understand she'd have been here by the specified three o'clock but she has to work until five thirty. So you'll be here for tea as I already mentioned. You're to stay with your grandmother this weekend. I'm sure you'll have a fine time. Remember, you're allowed to bring some extra cigarettes back with you. Now go and get that bag sorted out, I'm very busy."

Even the news that I'd be staying with Nana did nothing to lift my spirits. I trailed out of the office seething with suppressed rage, resentment and disappointment. I still had no idea as to whether I'd be allowed to enter the tennis competition the following weekend. Instead, I'd have to face my detestable mother and whatever she had planned for me.
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The problem is, those who defend him haven't done the research. I've done YEARS. Do a search on VILE on this forum alone and read every single post. Follow up on all the links I've made available. That will get you started.

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non fiction biog site pulls up an interesting story about a witness account of Saville and some other celebrities

I imagine the reason this is coming out now is because it's being carefully stage managed for damage limitation and to protect establishment figures who could have been out by Saville had this happened when he was alive

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http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2012...srael.html?m=1

JIMMY SAVILE FIXED IT FOR ISRAEL

Sir Jimmy Savile in Israel in 1975. 

JIMMY SAVILE FIX IT FOR ISRAEL IN 1977?

http://www.jewishtelegraph.com/savile.html (links found at Jimmy Savile Sex Beast Allegations.)

In 1977, Israel’s Prime Minister Menachem Begin had a meeting with Egyptian president Anwar Sadat.

This led to 'peace' between the two countries.

Sir Jimmy Savile received a medal from Israel in 1979, for services rendered.

Reportedly, Savile visited Israel in 1975 to advise Israel's President Ephraim Katzir on a matter of security.

Reportedly, Savile told the Israeli cabinet that he "was very disappointed: the Israelis had won the Six Day War but they had given back all the land, including the only oil well in the region, and were now paying the Egyptians more for oil than if they had bought it from Saudi Arabia."


Princess Diana with Jimmy Savile.

Reportedly, Savile visited Israel a number of times to offer his advice.

A Manchester businessman, Benny Sternberg, revealed that "Savile had been approached to explore the possibility of a meeting between Sadat and Begin because of his friendship with the family of the Egyptian president's wife Jehan."

Savile described himself as "the only yok with a Yiddishe kop".


Howard Silverman was one of Sir Jimmy Savile’s closest pals. Website for this image

"Savile claimed during an interview with The Guardian newspaper’s Simon Hattenstone that he told Professor Katzir: 'I’m very disappointed because you’ve all forgotten how to be Jewish and that’s why everyone is taking you to the cleaners … You won the Six Day War, you took all that land, you gave it all back, including the only oil well in the area, and now you’re paying the Egyptians for the oil you already had.'
"Savile also maintained that the president invited him to repeat his words at a Cabinet meeting. 'They asked my opinion about a couple of things, to which I said, ‘Nothing’s impossible’. They did exactly what I suggested and it worked out 100 per cent successful.’”
"The occasion was confirmed partly by Roger Ordish, producer of Jim'll Fix It, who said: 'I know he met the President when we were in Israel in 1975.'
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"Sir Jimmy always said he had berated the Israeli Cabinet in 1975 for being too soft after the Six Day War."

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/57...-my-batmitzvah

Savile's "ten-day visit to Israel in 1975, when he met President Ephraim Katzir and Jerusalem mayor Teddy Kollek, was organised by John Levy of the Friends of Israel Educational Trust...

"One of Savile's eight homes was a flat in the heart of the Leeds Jewish community in Roundhay... 

"He was a regular at fundraising dinners at synagogues in Leeds and Manchester..."


Cardinal Keith O'Brien with Jimmy Savile

Jimmy Savile had both a Royal and Papal knighthood (Order of St. Gregory the Great)

He was a Knights Hospitaller (also known as the Sovereign Military Hospitaller Order of St. John of Jerusalem of Rhodes and of Malta, Order of St. John, Knights of Malta, and Chevaliers of Malta)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile#Honours

"I know from my own unimpeachable sources that Saville was a sick abomination of a human being who not only abused children, but was a necrophiliac, which is defined as an 'obsessive fascination with death and corpse' and an 'attraction to or sexual contact with corpses' - hence his famous 'volunteering' to be a 'porter' at Leeds General Infirmary."

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...aville / Jimmy Savile Sex Beast Allegations.


Sir Jimmy Savile and former prime minister, Gordon Brown

Sir Jimmy Savile told Esquire magazine: "I am the eminence grise: the grey, shadowy figure in the background. The thing about me is I get things done and I work under cover."

Savile says he spent "11 consecutive Christmases ... with the Thatchers."

Speaking of former Prime Minister Thatcher, Savile told Esquire: "I knew the real woman and the real woman was something else. The times I spent up there (Chequers) - Denis, me and her, shoes off in front of the fire."

"He spent an afternoon entertaining the wives of the G7 leaders back in 1991 at John Major's invitation...

"Savile had dinner with ... Admiral Sir Michael Boyce (Chief of the Defence Staff)...

"Dickie Arbiter, who was Prince Charles's press adviser, confirms that Savile was involved in the lives of the Royal Family."

Diana described Savile as a "sort of mentor" to Charles. 

Roger Ordish, Savile's former BBC producer, said: "I know he met the President when we were in Israel in 1975. 

"And he did the same thing at Chequers with the Blairs as he did with the Thatchers."

Savile claimed that was the only existing civilian holder of the coveted Royal Marines Green Beret. 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...#ixzz284BODf5K
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The documentary will be a subtle cover up using saville as a sacriaficial lamb so a line is drawn under the whole affair in the mind of the public.
They prolly concocted the scheme after the BBc one was shelved.
Make it look like saville was a single bad apple touching up a few girls here and there, maybe more.
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just four normal blokes having a night on the tiles, innit!

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Sorry could you name the above.
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Is that Agony Aunt Claire Rayner in one of those photos!
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The documentary will be a subtle cover up using saville as a sacriaficial lamb so a line is drawn under the whole affair in the mind of the public.
They prolly concocted the scheme after the BBc one was shelved.
Make it look like saville was a single bad apple touching up a few girls here and there, maybe more.
I'd do the same of I was a murderer

Making snuff films

Raping kids

Into necrophilia

Befriending murderers

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Broadcaster Paul Gambaccini said he had been "waiting 30 years" for such stories to come out. He said newspapers had been primed to run similar stories while Sir Jimmy was alive, but the star had intervened to prevent their publication.

"On [one] occasion, and this cuts to the chase of the whole matter, he was called and he said 'well you could run that story, but if you do there goes the funds that come in to Stoke Mandeville - do you want to be responsible for the drying up of the charity donations'. And they backed down."

Esther Rantzen supported Gambaccini's impression of a broad awareness of Sir Jimmy's reputation.

After viewing the interviews, she said she now believed what she and others had failed to while working alongside him in the 1970s.

She told Channel 4 News: "I heard the rumours almost immediately. It was always said that he behaved inappropriately with children, but rumours are not evidence."

She added: "He was so well connected that I think that was another reason that people didn't dare pass on what they knew."

She said everybody who knew him - or knew of him - had helped create the aura of untouchability surrounding Sir Jimmy.

But Rantzen concludes there was no conspiracy, just "failings."

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